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Cannont defeat Hondler

Postby Bluerose » Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:34 pm

I keep getting wiped out. I just got the password and am heading out to go to map room, and Hondler just appears in the only way out and for the life of me, I cannot defeat him. I boosted up, got all my best weapons and armor on and still I get wiped out.

I did defeat him just after I received the password, it's where I run into him again after leaving the room where you get the password.

Any help?


Also, what does PDF stand for?
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Re: Cannont defeat Hondler

Postby hannah sage » Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:22 pm

Physical defense, I think. I think I may have said this elsewhere, but I killed him with combos and I used baretta's box. Not all my characters were lv99 either, so maybe lucked out? Anyways in the FAQ thread im pretty sure someone can give you an answer that makes more sense :)
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Re: Cannont defeat Hondler

Postby puzzled » Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:24 pm

I forget where the vendor is exactly but there was a computer in astral litz that sells very good physical defense stuff.
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Re: Cannont defeat Hondler

Postby kkhohoho » Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:20 pm

puzzled wrote:I forget where the vendor is exactly but there was a computer in astral litz that sells very good physical defense stuff.


Who costs lots of cash. :)
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Re: Cannont defeat Hondler

Postby Bluerose » Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:48 pm

Okay, Thank you for your help on this. I finally beat him and finished the game!

What I did was have Random keep hitting him with lethal punishment and had the others keep reviving, healing and using there spells to have Random attack and to keep up there defenses.

I was playing in easy mode.........and it was tough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Cannont defeat Hondler

Postby puzzled » Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:50 pm

Congrats : )

I wonder if someone would be able to finish the game on normal non-import. O_o
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Re: Cannont defeat Hondler

Postby Tyrellias » Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:18 am

There are enough good items in LF3 to do it honestly. And once you know the game, you can make many non import character very powerful.
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Re: Cannont defeat Hondler

Postby Indinera » Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:35 am

puzzled wrote:Congrats : )

I wonder if someone would be able to finish the game on normal non-import. O_o


me lol

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Re: Cannont defeat Hondler

Postby kkhohoho » Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:33 am

Bluerose wrote:
What I did was have Random keep hitting him with lethal punishment and had the others keep reviving, healing and using there spells to have Random attack and to keep up there defenses.


I hate to say it but, that isn't working for me. Can anyone help me out here?
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Re: Cannont defeat Hondler

Postby puzzled » Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:06 am

It's kind of hard to say without looking at all your equipment and setup, which I'm too lazy to do.

General advice:

1) Random is your best damage output. He should either be using Lethal Punishment, or Laxius Power. Laxius Power is if Hondler is dodging too many attacks (one of the times you face him he has a lot of evade, so you have to watch that)

2) Luci make sure she keeps Grand Protection up to reduce incoming damages

3) Sarah can use Slasher to help damage output

4) Wendala can use Laxius Rocket for damage output

However Hondler hits hard, so the best way to do is just have random attack, luci keep protection up, and sarah/wendala keep using healing items or put in defense mode so they don't die instantly all the time. Random can last one hit or so before needing a heal but the others can die instantly without grand protection on.
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Re: Cannont defeat Hondler

Postby hannah sage » Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:13 am

Slasher did not at all work for me. Anytime i tried the guy laughed at me, almost literally. Total no go :(
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Re: Cannont defeat Hondler

Postby Bluerose » Fri Sep 17, 2010 3:04 am

I posted in the memories forum for you, Indy.
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Re: Cannont defeat Hondler

Postby Indinera » Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:59 am

Thank you very much Bluerose, I appreciate it. :)
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Re: Cannont defeat Hondler

Postby Indinera » Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:00 am

kkhohoho wrote:
Bluerose wrote:
What I did was have Random keep hitting him with lethal punishment and had the others keep reviving, healing and using there spells to have Random attack and to keep up there defenses.


I hate to say it but, that isn't working for me. Can anyone help me out here?


I hope you can succeed!
Make sure to pump up the stats of your characters before entering the fight (Luciana can cast her Laxius Boost if she is levelled enough).
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Re: Cannont defeat Hondler

Postby seeliewight » Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:36 pm

puzzled wrote:It's kind of hard to say without looking at all your equipment and setup, which I'm too lazy to do.
General advice:
(some good advice, snipped)


I would modify puzzled's advice. If you are not hitting, don't waste rounds with Random / Striker / Slasher. Instead, use Random's Laxius Punishment, Wendy's Laxius Rocket and Luci's Royal Combo, and Sarah to heal.
Luci's combo is crucial - it gives +Obsidion Skin to everyone and hits Hondler with good spells, twice.

Also, use the items in the computer shop (near the access card computer) to boost your PDF very high.
Use all permanent and temporary stat boosts before the fight. Get Wendala and Sarah to cast Legend Slayer on themselves (Sarah via Mage Guild fusion, Wendala via a book), Luci should cast Laxius Boost and double her HP before the fight.

I had all characters with ~1500 HP, so they can take 2-3 hits easily from Hondler without bothering about healing. As far as healing goes, my strategy was to use Sarah as the healer, and use holy water or other item that does 100% HP. If Sarah dies, Random uses one round to bring Sarah back. Never use Luci for healing or protecting - she does the most damage to Hondler, so she is strictly attack. Besides with 600+ PDF and 2000+ HP (after Laxius Boost), she can take a few hits.
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