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Busho's Rain of Hits

Posted:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:20 pm
by Cassiopeia
Busho is constantly hitting already dead monsters.
Like when he kills one with the first or second hit, he might still hit the dead one again. Is this meant to be that way?
It's quite annoying. He misses so often anyway, and when he wastes a strike on a dead monster, it makes the skill even less useful.
Re: Busho's Rain of Hits

Posted:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:33 pm
by Indinera
Hmmm the plugin (program) for multiple hits is coded this way, which is not very smart I agree.
Yet I chose to keep it this way because Rain of Hits is not supposed to be among Busho's best skills. As you noticed, it can miss too.
Re: Busho's Rain of Hits

Posted:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:50 pm
by Cassiopeia
Yes, it misses more often than not.
The problem is, it's his only skill (so far) that I can attack several enemies with. So many times he's the only one faster than the enemies, so if he doesn't wipe out maybe two right away (for instants the bats - the regular ones, not the evolved ones ...), I can do nothing but watch them do great damage on my party. And if he sucks like he does with that skill, that's not very helpful.
Re: Busho's Rain of Hits

Posted:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:44 pm
by Indinera
Cassiopeia wrote:Yes, it misses more often than not.
The problem is, it's his only skill (so far) that I can attack several enemies with. So many times he's the only one faster than the enemies, so if he doesn't wipe out maybe two right away (for instants the bats - the regular ones, not the evolved ones ...), I can do nothing but watch them do great damage on my party. And if he sucks like he does with that skill, that's not very helpful.
It shouldn't miss more often than not. I think the accuracy rate is around 70 or 80%.
Which mode are you playing in? Normal no?
Re: Busho's Rain of Hits

Posted:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:51 pm
by Cassiopeia
Normal mode, yes.
I feel he does miss more often than not. He hardly ever strikes all 4 times, and 3 times is kind of possible, but doesn't happen very often. However, I've had a bunch of fights where he missed all 4 times.
On a sidenote - I just noticed two little things after doing the Karim quest:
When I got the proof from the mife (maid/wife), return to the world map and click the sparkle again, Caius still says to go there and get some proof.
And after getting my reward at the Inn, when I read the note on the wall, Caius still asks where to get the reward.
Re: Busho's Rain of Hits

Posted:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:51 am
by darkange
Cassiopeia wrote:Normal mode, yes.
I feel he does miss more often than not. He hardly ever strikes all 4 times, and 3 times is kind of possible, but doesn't happen very often. However, I've had a bunch of fights where he missed all 4 times.
Welcome back Cassi
I Think it's normal to miss very often - on craaaazy mode when I was playing... my Busho missed a lot even with gear that increases hit rate...so I thought that was normal
Re: Busho's Rain of Hits

Posted:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:10 am
by Indinera
Had to check this one.
Rain of Hits has a 72% hit rate. That is also affected by Busho's "native" hit rate. So it's 72% if he has 100% hit rate, 72*0.96 if he has "only" 96% and it works both ways in the sense that if he has, say, 110% hit rate, it becomes 72*1.1.
Re: Busho's Rain of Hits

Posted:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:10 pm
by Cassiopeia
Hm, I don't think I ever had anything on him that reduced his hit rate - rather the opposite.
Anyway, it sure feels like he misses more often than not, lol. That's why I don't use this at all anymore.
Another sidenote ...
I just killed mimic chests a the maze. The beast book says they drop Hero Potion or Raw Salcerium. Mine just dropped a Body Jar though ...

Re: Busho's Rain of Hits

Posted:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:35 pm
by Lady JJ
In the ice castle/cavern? Pretty sure the hero jars are random. You're going to need a few, so reload until they do drop.
Re: Busho's Rain of Hits

Posted:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:22 pm
by Indinera
Hm, I don't think I ever had anything on him that reduced his hit rate - rather the opposite.
Anyway, it sure feels like he misses more often than not, lol. That's why I don't use this at all anymore.
One thing I forgot to say is that you'd have to factor in the evasion rate of the enemy, too.
With bats it's certainly higher than normal.
Re: Busho's Rain of Hits

Posted:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:27 pm
by Cassiopeia
Well that makes sense. After the bats I gave up on it. So I don't know what it's like with other monsters. I'll have to try that.
Re: Busho's Rain of Hits

Posted:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:33 pm
by Indinera
Cassiopeia wrote:Well that makes sense. After the bats I gave up on it. So I don't know what it's like with other monsters. I'll have to try that.
Try to give him as much hit rate as possible.
Also if he's blinded he's got even less chances to hit (logically enough) but landing just one hit can pay off the whole skill.
Re: Busho's Rain of Hits

Posted:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:45 pm
by Cassiopeia
No, he has never been blinded.
And one single hit was never helpful. If so, I would just have him do a normal attack.
Re: Busho's Rain of Hits

Posted:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:46 pm
by Indinera
Cassiopeia wrote:No, he has never been blinded.
And one single hit was never helpful. If so, I would just have him do a normal attack.
If he's blinded, the damage from just one hit is dramatically increased.
Re: Busho's Rain of Hits

Posted:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:50 pm
by Cassiopeia
Oh really? See, that I didn't know because he was never blinded, lol.