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Davy's Scrapping By Skill

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 2:23 am
by Lady JJ
How does this work? The description says Drop Item Double so I expected to get 2 items. But that doesn't happen at all. I'm still getting single items. So what is the purpose of this skill?

Re: Davy's Scrapping By Skill

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 8:14 am
by Indinera
Lady JJ wrote:How does this work? The description says Drop Item Double so I expected to get 2 items. But that doesn't happen at all. I'm still getting single items. So what is the purpose of this skill?


If I understand the mechanism correctly, it doubles your chances to get a drop item.
So if it had 10%, it now has 20%.

Re: Davy's Scrapping By Skill

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 10:32 am
by D-Squall
And about Gold? When mastered, it says it doubles gold. It actually doubles gold or the chance of getting double gold?

Indinera wrote:If I understand the mechanism correctly, it doubles your chances to get a drop item.
So if it had 10%, it now has 20%.


To be honest, I would never think it is actually that. Shouldn't the descrption says something like "10/20% chances of enemies dropping items".

Re: Davy's Scrapping By Skill

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 11:39 am
by Lady JJ
D-Squall wrote:And about Gold? When mastered, it says it doubles gold. It actually doubles gold or the chance of getting double gold?

Indinera wrote:If I understand the mechanism correctly, it doubles your chances to get a drop item.
So if it had 10%, it now has 20%.


To be honest, I would never think it is actually that. Shouldn't the descrption says something like "10/20% chances of enemies dropping items".

Exactly. The description is very misleading. I'll need to pay attention to what happens with the amount of gold once it's mastered.

Re: Davy's Scrapping By Skill

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 3:30 pm
by kimo
Very misleading? How about totally useless as a description. +::cry

Now I wonder if this would be the trick for getting the a Tank to drop the Malek's Comet relic because there is only a 50% chance even after you have completed the requirements for getting it as a POSSIBLE drop. +::Dunno

Re: Davy's Scrapping By Skill

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 7:51 pm
by Rabbit
I played with this skill a bit.

Given the high level of polish in this game, I assumed the skill wasn't broken, but rather the skill description was. "Drop Item Double Chances" would fix it. Even so, it was a rather disappointing skill. The drop items I was interested in seemed to have such low drop chances, doubling those chances did not help much.

When mastered, it does give double gold every fight. It is an appropriate skill for Davy's character, even though someone who takes the time to master (and combine) all the skills does not really need a double gold skill.

I found the combined "super skill" (which uses Scrapping By) made boss fights easy, even on nightmare difficulty.

Re: Davy's Scrapping By Skill

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 8:10 pm
by D-Squall
Yes, the skill wasn't broken, only the description.
And as someone who took the time to evolve the skills for every party members, Davy's Natural Selection was the best. Not only it gives amazing boosts like preventing ailments, but also increases elemental defense.

Re: Davy's Scrapping By Skill

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 8:45 pm
by Indinera
And about Gold? When mastered, it says it doubles gold. It actually doubles gold or the chance of getting double gold?


No, since gold is a fixed amount, it just doubles it.

To be honest, I would never think it is actually that. Shouldn't the descrption says something like "10/20% chances of enemies dropping items".


As it's a system enrooted in the software, I wasn't entirely sure myself whether that would be double of anything you get, or double chances to get everything, but it looks like it's the latter.

Re: Davy's Scrapping By Skill

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 8:46 pm
by Indinera
Lady JJ wrote:
D-Squall wrote:And about Gold? When mastered, it says it doubles gold. It actually doubles gold or the chance of getting double gold?

Indinera wrote:If I understand the mechanism correctly, it doubles your chances to get a drop item.
So if it had 10%, it now has 20%.


To be honest, I would never think it is actually that. Shouldn't the descrption says something like "10/20% chances of enemies dropping items".

Exactly. The description is very misleading. I'll need to pay attention to what happens with the amount of gold once it's mastered.


That's because I just used the wording of the software (RM MZ) +::surrender

Re: Davy's Scrapping By Skill

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 8:49 pm
by Indinera
D-Squall wrote:Yes, the skill wasn't broken, only the description.
And as someone who took the time to evolve the skills for every party members, Davy's Natural Selection was the best. Not only it gives amazing boosts like preventing ailments, but also increases elemental defense.


Yup he does become quite the protector/manager of the team if you take the time to develop his technics.